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I've been obsessed with Giant Robot since high school. They were the first magazine that really seemed to "speak" to me...Asian Pop Culture. And that doesn't include rice-rockets. It's
been almost a decade since Giant Robot stormed indie bookstore shelves
with their first 'zine (to the left). These days, they're overlooking
2 stores in Los Angeles, curate art shows, produce their own signature
t-shirts (you 've seen em..the monkey, and Bruce Lee on the turntables!),
and even publish their own books. |
youth culture, but everything cool, period. You thought Louis Vuitton was the first one to peep Murakami? Check out the Art Attack issue which came out a year before any of that happened - these cats knew what was up! Speaking
of which, over the years, I wasn't the only one GR was "speaking"
to. On any given day at the GR1 or GR2 stores, you'll run into white businessman
in ties, twiggy model chicks, and punk skate kids. Recently, Los Angeles
Magazine even gave them mad props in a multiple-page spread. Yup. Giant Robot has blossomed into a full-on cultural phenomenon. Here's their story through the words of Eric Nakamura..... |
How
did you and Martin meet up? We met at punk rock shows. Jabberjaw club, for example..early 90s, late 80s. If you saw an Asian guy at a club at a time like that..there were only white people there. I was the only other Asian guy and I was like, "Oh!" Word got around that I was interested in doing stuff, I was gonna make a Giant Robot thing, and I was looking around for people to write, and he came up to me and wanted to write. How did the concept come up for Giant Robot? We kinda just did it without thinking about it ahead of time. Kinda like if someone asked you about The Hundreds..what is it? If someone asked me what is Giant Robot, I'd
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have
no answer. We had no concept before we started...just Asian pop culture
stuff that we liked..that I liked..whatever, we were just gonna put it
on paper. There were no websites in 1994 really. There were, but they
were really sparse. Hyptertext links, that's it. It was really rough,
it was a zine. It was all just fun energy. |
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a
big zine revolution where zine publishers were getting really crummy book
deals. It was hot news, but it was just a trend for a minute. But we started
before that. |
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Kung Fu films. We were tripping out on all that stuff at that time. We were always into that stuff even before that but we never had the power to put it into a zine. This was before I knew how to use a computer. I didn't even know how to type at that time. It was 94, it was just raw. Quark? Macs? WE didn't know what Quark was and we didn't have a Mac. Beginning it was finding someone who had a computer who could type it for us. Here's the text, just cut it out and try to make it fit. You and Martin alone worked on this? In
the end, it al took place in my bedroom, my parents' house. Took over
my parents' house. |
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How
was the response? Where did you distribute it? |
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network
was going on at that time. Nothing by email though, again! This was all
sending it by mail, telephone, no email yet. It was a really hard time. When was your first break from going from a zine to a fully magazine? Its kinda hard because we were always about transitions. The Giant Robot thing was always about transforming a little at a time. The third issue was already full size but newsprinted. But the first time we had nicer paper was issue 9 or 10. Then we had a gloss cover with black and white inside. Now its almost all color. It's all these small transitions, so its hard to say when things changed. We had advertising from the get-go, it's the little things there's no on-and-off switch. We're always about transforming little by little. |
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How'd
you come up with the name, Giant Robot?
Big Robots. American robots are...humans control these robots. Automatrons that clean your house or mow your lawn. The ones in Japan are always massive, right? Fifty stories tall, blowing things up, fighting, you know what I mean? Sometimes they were controlled by humans but sometimes they weren't. Kinda interesting. In America, robots are 4 feet tall and R2D2. Short Circuit! Exactly. Japan had a better concept of robots at that time.
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What
has changed in terms of Asian pop culture? Did you get hit up a lot during this time? Everywhere. All the time. They were asking us ridiculous questions. What is this? The whole time we were saying, "Man, you're not gonna be writing about this a year from now. This is a trend." We were about longevity..we wanna be |
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around
20 years from now. And there are these Asian pop culture things that people
look at as trends and some are...they're not here to stay. I kinda look
at it that way, that it's always changing but for us it's whatever we
wanna put in our magazine. But media-wise, its always been bad. You had a nice write-up in Los Angeles magazine. That was REALLY nice, that was more about |
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our magazine than Asian pop culture. IT was really nice. It was huge, couldn't believe it. That article was way long and he said really nice stuff about us. At the same time, there have been articles that long on Aisan pop culture and usually theyre bad, inaccurate, or something..not cool. But we get hit up a lot. I always give the same answers. Like what? I can't really help them, ya know? I just tell them the same things..it's just a trend, I tell them the truth. You wanna know about Pokemon? In two years you won't care about Pokemon. It's a trend, not a cultural thing that |
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will
last. They wanna know about anime all the time. I'm like, "Anime's
cool I guess..there's a lot of it!" Where is Asian pop culture at right now, specifically? I don't know..I don't think you'll read about it in too many places anymore it's been exhausted ..the topic's over. I think Asian pop culture, basically, is back to Asia. The cool stuff is coming out of Asia, Hong Kong. There's a lot of cool stuff that's getting done..the toys, shoes, all the limited edition weird stuff. Kubrick. I always thought it was cool but now it's one of the only things still standing. All the actors are burned out. There . |
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are good horror stories from Asia. The Ring is an example but there are even more that aren't even here out The Eye. The Eye is good. They're making the Eye 2... sounds like it's gonna be good. I think there's a lot of stuff out there still coming. Horror movies are a good example. That's right now. But who knows.. in 2 years, it'll probably be something else. There are movies in Thailand, Korea, that are popular right now. A little bit of India. Three years ago, no one gave a shit about Korean movies. Now, it's like action movies from Korea are like "Whoa, watch those." In terms of what we see in America, it's limited. You gotta really |
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search. It gets harder and harder. As all the big stars, Chow Yun Fat and Jackie Chan get big..all the underground stuff... people don't know about it because they're too busy looking at that. That's how it is for everything, not just Asian pop culture. Mainstream culture puts up a big front and it's up to you to go under that. What'd you think of "Better Luck Tomorrow"? I really liked it! That would be Asian American pop culture I guess. I lump it all together. I liked it a lot. I saw it early at a Cast and Crew screening and thought it was really special and a year later it's doing pretty well. I think the good thing about it is that although it has an All-Asian cast... |
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it doesn't really matter. Why hadn't this been done a long time ago? This is how we live. This is Giant Robot's way since 1994. We talk about this stuff but it didn't really matter..didnt have to have yellow skin .With Asian American films that come out they're always about the color of their skin and they're bad movies on top of it. It just has to be really good. It can be all about Asian American shit or it can be not like BLT. The fact was it was a good movie and I think that's what proved everything..so hopefully AA people won't make shitty movies anymore. I hope that raises the bar really high...much higher. I think that's really important. Asian American culture has always been not so good, bordering on bad. That's why in our magazine we don't cover too many Asian American things That's why all the Asian |
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American
magazines go out of business ..they have nothing really solid to write
about, they only have bad stuff to write about. I think people are paying attention to graphics now. Ten years ago, even five yars ago, there was less space for independent artist kids who graduated college, or who didn't go to college, making a living doing art. That's a new thing, I think. I think there's enough space for it now for a bunch of kids to like, make art. If they're good, they can make a living at it now. That's an important thing, that people are paying attention to graphics. It's a |
way of communication, kinda. Everyone's wearing t-shirts, but people are more savvy about it. People are raising the bar on graphics all the time. Even big companies, like Nike, are doing all this stuff with artists now. They're seeing the value of good graphics, good art Big ups to Giant Robot!Now, go visit GIANTROBOT.COM > |